Elisabeth Stewart Ginder Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Pennsylvania

I met Lis when we were 14yrs old in High School. At the time I figured she was trying so hard to be my friend to bang my older Brother, but eventually I let my guard down and we became good friends and hung out constantly. A lot of people, including my own Mother, warned me about being friends with her. She was always nice to me, but I should have listened. || The first trouble came almost 2yrs after I met her. I needed to transfer High Schools and she was planning on doing the same and told me about a school. We both got accepted. She was one of the only people I knew there. The first few weeks were pretty decent. Then at the end of October I was hit by some messed up news. I was dating a guy. He was basically my first real boyfriend. Lis got him to break up with me and”go out” with him. According to her nothing physical happened between them and they only met up once, but it didn’t matter. You don’t do that to a”friend” Apparently I wasn’t

I met Lis when we were 14yrs old in High School. At the time I figured she was trying so hard to be my friend to bang my older Brother, but eventually I let my guard down and we became good friends and hung out constantly. A lot of people, including my own Mother, warned me about being friends with her. She was always nice to me, but I should have listened. || The first trouble came almost 2yrs after I met her. I needed to transfer High Schools and she was planning on doing the same and told me about a school. We both got accepted. She was one of the only people I knew there. The first few weeks were pretty decent. Then at the end of October I was hit by some messed up news. I was dating a guy. He was basically my first real boyfriend. Lis got him to break up with me and”go out” with him. According to her nothing physical happened between them and they only met up once, but it didn’t matter. You don’t do that to a”friend” Apparently I wasn’t the first of her”Friends” Boyfriends she threw herself at like that. I didn’t talk to her for almost 2yrs. || She came back into my life somehow, I don’t exactly remember how or why. At the time I met my current Husband Jerry shortly afterward. Even though I was friendly and hanging out with her, I never felt easy with her and Jerry. I was in College full-time and working 32hrs a week. I remember once being exhausted and falling asleep in her bed. I woke up and her and Jerry were gone. They said they were out front hanging out since I was sleeping. I felt weird about it but put it in the back of my head. We hung out with her for a little while before she disappeared from my life again. Jerry never really had nice things to say about Lis. He called her ugly and said she seemed obsessed with my life. It was weird, but she wasn’t really in my life so I didn’t care. || Jerry and I married Feb 2nd 2008 (5yrs after dating). In September 2010 we welcomed our twins into our lives and in July 2013 we had another child. During this time Lis was more of a Facebook friend. She’d watch my life through Social Media (I am an over sharer) and would make comments to me about how I should be a model and how lucky I was to have Jerry in my life. She would talk about my kids’ with me. She started to try getting involved more and more after our third child was born. At the time I was greatful. She was giving me brand new clothes for my kids and hand me down toys for them. She had moved to another County but her Parents were close so she would drop them off there. Jerry never wanted her to come around or hang out. He refused to even go pick up the items (I didn’t drive). It made things difficult. Here was someone trying to help us and he was being a complete ass. I had to make up excuses. Christmas 2013 she had something she wanted to drop off. I figured she would want to hang out, which was fine with me. She couldn’t stay long. It was the first time in YEARS I seen her physically. She had to leave but wanted to come back around after she was done. I was completely fine with it (Stay-at-home Mom of three little ones I don’t get to hang out with people much). About an hour after she left Jerry took my phone (after talking trash about her to his Sister) and texted her we were going to bed so to not come. It wasn’t true and I was actually angry at him for doing it, but he never wanted her around, so I was just whatever about the situation. || Fast forward to September 2014. Jerry and I were having issues. Lis was, of course, there to ask me if I needed anything. She was worried. I didn’t want to get too into it with her and I wasn’t sure where me and him were heading. This wasn’t our first time having issues and he acted like he hated me. I didn’t want to leave, but I didn’t want to stay. I was confused. I knew eventually we would get over it but I questioned if it was even worth it. Eventually the two of us made up and things were looking better. He decided to look through my phone. I didn’t hide anything so I didn’t care. He saw Lis’ texts to me and mine to her. It apparently made him angry I wasn’t sure about us and that I didn’t know if I wanted to stay or go (Mind you, I never held back that information from him). Then shit hit the fan. || On October 19th, 2014 he left his cellphone unlocked. It was locked for weeks. This was right after he saw the texts. Turns out the night before he didn’t go to the bar like he said he was, he took another female out. It was bad. He told me he hadn’t loved me for years. Turned my cell phones off. Called me every possible name and then demanded a divorce and for me and my kids to leave. I told him I can’t leave. I had no where to go and even if I did, the kids’ school bus takes 2wks to change a schedule. He called both my Parents demanding they come get me and take me out of”HIS” house. When my Parents told him they aren’t doing anything and HE should leave since I had the kids he decided to call Lis. Those texts about her supporting me pissed him off to no end. I was in tears, I was hysterical. My life was falling apart. She demanded I get on the phone with her. I refused. She shouldn’t had been involved anyway. She told him to tell me if I don’t get on the phone she basically wasn’t my friend anymore. It was such a”wtf?!” moment I hated her. I was going through this and you are telling me to get on the phone and explain myself because YOU didn’t deserve my Husband involving you? I took his phone and tried to smash it. That was the last time I thought Lis would be involved in my life. || The next night Jerry sat on the phone for over 7hrs talking to a female. I thought I was the girl he took out, turns out it was Lis. He lied to her about us, about me, about everything. And she was”giving him an ear to listen to” If I had known it was her that night, listening to me plead and cry with whoever it was on the other end that he was lying, we were in love, we weren’t over, he actually just slept with me on the 17th, I would have killed her. But I didn’t know. Jerry was cold and callous. It disgusted me. I got no sleep that night. || The next day, knowing what I was going through and the extreme emotional pain I was going through finding out he actually cheated on me, my Parents came and packed me up. I was moving to my Dad’s. Jerry’s emotional torment was going to finally end. I didn’t tell him I was leaving. I even went down to Family court and filed for Support and Custody. The whole time I kept thinking how badly I wanted to have us get over it. We were days shy of our 11yr mark. It was devastating to say the least. All I wanted was to forget any of this happened. || A short time later, on November 8th, 2014 my Facebook BLEW UP. I still didn’t have a cellphone because Jerry had cancelled my service. Apparently Jerry and Lis were dating. Not only that, her and her three kids were now living in my house. My world imploded. According to the two of them I was immature and I needed to get over it. She was still acting as if we should be friends”for the kids” Mind you, even though I had known Lis for 16yrs, she never once met my kids. So to bring this woman around them was ridiculous. The two of them made it out to be some beautiful love story 11yrs in the making and how I, the evil bitch, kept them from being together. My mind was so friggin warped. I know I was acting insane, but really who can blame me. They called each other”Soulmates” || Flash forward to December 11th, 2014: Jerry shows up at my house to take our Son to get some staples in his head removed. He wanted us to talk. I refused. For two days he hounded me. I finally gave in and spoke to him for almost two hours. Therapy to benefit the children was discussed and we agreed to it. He also wanted to start seeing me more. Lis had no idea. During this time I learned how Lis and him got together. Basically the whore knew I left and showed up at my front door less then 4hrs after I left uninvited with gifts for him. Jerry, of course, made me out to be a horrible human being and she talked to him about how much better she would treat him. She did the math and said together the two of them can bring in over $100,000/yr and how much easier their lives would be. She admitted she always liked him and even use to watch him at an old security guard job he had at a Casino back in 2008. She never approached him, just watched him. I thought that was weird, but he found it interesting. His logic, according to him was, she had money he needed to keep up his lifestyle he otherwise wouldn’t be able to (since I was going for Child and Spousal Support), she was easy, she didn’t mind his baggage and she was needy. He figured I was never coming back home, so she could help him out. She bought him things, paid his bills and even took him and all 6 of the kids to Hershey Park on her dime (they didn’t bother informing me they were taking my kids over 2hrs away mind you). She even bought him a $900 cell phone. He made it clear he was with her only because it benefited him financially (shows what type of person he is, huh?) || He would randomly stop by and give me cigarettes or a few dollars just to see me. He was becoming easier to deal with and he kept asking me to come home. I told him we have to go through therapy because honestly, I didn’t know if I wanted to. As days went on he would end our phone calls with”I love you” and text random sweet things to me. The rule was, Lis wasn’t to know. Eventually this became tiresome and I told him if he was serious about wanting me back home, he had to earn it and Lis needed to be gone. He agreed. And on December 29th 2014 he kicked her out. || From then until February 3rd 2015 Jerry and I saw each other about 2-3x a week for therapy and to hang out with the kids at places like Burger King to try and see if things could still work. He almost had me. He bought me a new car, he talked about when I would come home, he had ideas about how things could be different so we would never end up at the point we were in October always at each other’s throats. Things were looking up, but I couldn’t trust him. I heard whispers Lis wasn’t gone. I knew he was still talking to her and it caused fights. The truth is much more disturbing. || Apparently Lis did move out, but they never broke up. She was willing to move her and her three kids out and be Jerry’s”side piece” once I came home. She had no issues being the other woman, according to her, until my kids reached 18 (the twins were only 4, my youngest is 1!!!!) when then Jerry would leave me. He was only doing this for the kids. Jerry’s side was different. I wasn’t giving him a def yes or no on coming home and he couldn’t financially risk losing Lis if I decided I didn’t want to be with him. The stories the two of them told were disgusting. || The car he bought me they joked about having sex in (probably did) so they can laugh at me whenever I drove it (he took it back after this was all found out). While spending hours on the phone with me at night, she would sit next to him listening in on our phone calls being a good, quiet little whore. She claims to have even sucked his dick and fucked him while he was speaking to me. He denies it but did say she tried to a few times because she is demented like that. She talked about her buying a duplex and her having one floor while I have another and Jerry could go to whomever’s house he wanted for the night in some sick sister wives twist. She spent nights with him knowing he was spending nights with me and sleeping in the same bed, without the sheets even being changed. Jerry had personal videos and pictures of me she asked to watch, and did. She was secretly involved in my Life for over 8wks without my knowledge. It was disgusting that she was willing to put her self-respect on the side and be an actual Homewrecking Whore. There was even at one point a plot for her and him to try and take custody of my kids. My twins have Autism and are in the process of getting SSDI started. The plan was, to save money, they would take the kids from me (good luck) and that would knock off the child support. She would then go out on disability herself and collect SSDI and stay home to raise my and her kids. Like some twisted ass Brady Bunch. The tales get worse and worse and creepier and creepier but I have to save some stuff for the book lol || Jerry swore it was a mistake and most of what she said were lies. He only kept her there for her money. He didn’t know what I was thinking. Things were done at that point. Everything he did, including picking up the car was done with her. He wanted to take his Mother out to eat and I’d give him recommendations and it turns out it was for him and Lis’ dates. There was no turning back from that. However, we still continued therapy. He even gave me his cell phone call log to make sure Lis was gone from his life. That lasted like 2 days before I realized they just used his work phone to speak. She still wasn’t gone. I was 100% done with him as a Husband and as a Friend. The deception ran so much deeper than that. He is an asshole, and she has issues (including blowing guys in her office at work… oh wait, I’m sorry she’s being”molested” at work but never reporting it. So she’s really cheating on him, too. Always the victim.) || By February 4th, 2015 her and her three kids were already moved back into my home like nothing ever happened and they were back to their twisted”love story” I put that in quotes because according to Jerry she’s on too many narcotics and will eventually be in a wheelchair in ten years. He’ll be gone by then though because he doesn’t want to be tied down to someone in that condition. When her money runs dry and she can’t work, she’ll be gone. About two weeks ago my daughter was awarded an Autism Cruise Grant. We applied for it prior to our marriage falling apart. He basically demanded Lis and her kids HAD to go (she doesn’t trust him with me. When he would pick up the kids she was always on Bluetooth to listen to us and when he would call me, if she wasn’t with him, it had to be on 3way). I told him I am NOT going on a damn vacation with her. I was told once again I need to get along with her for the sake of the kids. Her kids are my kids Brothers and Sister….. o_0 I told him her kids would be welcomed to Birthday parties and whatnot, but Lis will NEVER be allowed in the same room with me. The conversation ended with him saying he does not want to see or speak to the kids anymore because of me and my issues with their”StepMom”. He’s stuck to 13 days and hasn’t tried to call or see his kids. May 28th 2015 is when our Custody date is schedule, at which point, him and Lis are going through with their plans to try and take Custody from me. Good luck to her and him on that one. || || || >

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